Billion dollar failures, and billion dollar success | Tom Conrad (Quibi, Pandora, Pets.com, Snap, Zero)

There's this belief that everybody needs to be a founder. I think in some ways our industry would be much better off if there were fewer founders. category of smart, creative, hardworking, talented you know, borderline visionary people who can raise that two million dollar seed and go off and build some stupid company that's never gonna go anywhere. That would be so much better off.

Finding a a team that needs their skill set and that working on a problem that has a mathematical formula that's going to win on any metric, whatever metric you care about. You want like the acclaim of your peers, you want financial reward, you want outside impact on culture, whatever whatever the thing is, it gets you out of bed every morning, you can you can achieve that in collaboration with others. You don't have to be the person that Raises the sea ground.

Today, my guest is Tom Conrad. Tom was an engineer at Apple, CTO of Pandora, which he helped take from zero to eighty million users. He's also VP of product at Snap, where he's the right hand man to Evan Spiegel for two years. He's been on the board of Sonos. For over seven years.

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