A climate-resilient ancient grain with Pierre Thiam of Yolélé (2022)

Okay, on to the show. And this week we're rerunning an interview from last fall with Chef Pierre Chiam. His company, Ulele, is betting big on phonio. It's a nutritious and drought resistant African grain that could feed. Billions of people on our warming planet. Hope you enjoy. Hello and welcome to how I built this lab.

I'm Guy Raz. So one of my favorite things to do is to wander the aisles of grocery stores. I'm always on the lookout for weird and new products. Recently I came across some mushroom jerky, cassava cheese puffs with plant-based cheese, a Mexican fermented kombucha type drink. Anyway, I always work to find at least one new thing in the store to try each week. And about a year ago.

I came across a grain that looked really interesting. It was high in protein, gluten free, and most intriguingly It was an ancient grain from Africa. It's called Phonio and immediately grabbed a bag and cooked it up with some chicken thighs later that night.

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