Investigating The True History Of MKUltra & CIA Mind Control - John Lisle - #963
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How did you find all of this out? Like, where did you do all of the research for this stuff? This is I didn't think that you could top the insanity of the last book that you wrote, but you've managed to do it. Congratulations. Thank you, thank you.
This book was really exciting because I found a lot of new documents about MK Ultra, specifically some depositions about a uh maybe over a dozen depositions that were taken in the nineteen eighties as part of a lawsuit against the perpetrators of MK Ultra, against the CIA, and as part of these depositions, um, I have the perpetrators, Sidney Gottlieb, the head of MK Ultra, his right hand man Robert Lashbrook, the head of the CIA, Richard Helms, they are questioned by these attorneys, and I have the verbatim transcript of them talking about what they were doing in the CIA as part of MK Ultra, why why they wanted to do to do this, how they got away with it. So I have some great transcripts. So that's that's really the basis of the book are these verbatim dialogues, which is so exciting for a historian, because usually in history you never get dialogue because nobody's there to write it down.
You know, I'm not going to quote something if I don't have the verbatim quote. That's usually a thing you can do in fiction to get inside the heads of the readers or into the heads of the characters. But for me, I now have this dialogue so I get to play with it and work with it. And oh, it's just been so fun getting into their heads and seeing what they say. How I'm interested in why the CIA was keen to look at mind control in any case.
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