How did Heated Rivalry’s Producers Make Their Massive Hit?

Hogging seats on a crowded train, not saying excuse me, watching videos on your phone with no headphones in. Sometimes it feels like we don't know how to act anymore. What we have been seeing, increasingly, is people breaking rules. Why should I play by the rules if nobody else is going to do that for me? This week on Explain It to Me, how to mind your manners.

New episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. Today we've got a special bonus episode, and it's not about anything terrifying or depressing. It's about the most addictive, delightful, surprise cultural phenomena of the decade, heated rivalry.

I'm joined today by the show's creator, Jacob Tierney, and executive producer Brendan Brady. Welcome you two. You guys are cute already. Thanks, Kara. We've been beset by some tech issues, but nonetheless, the gays will prevail.

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