When enough is enough | Andy Johns (ex-FB, Twitter, Quora)

There are day to day stresses that are normal and we just have to put up with. Yeah. But then there's the other stuff that's kind of the the flashing red alarm. Again, you can go back to animals. It's like when their fundamental functions, when they're core behaviors of diet, exercise, playfulness, socialization, sleep, when those things get disrupted, it it's a sign that there is something going on here that you need to take a look at. And so the same is true with people. If your sleep always sucks, if your relationships are constantly strained or frequently strained, if your physical health is failing. Yeah, there's so many ways that that can be measured. So there's really no excuse for that to say like, oh, I just didn't know. I'd say it's to look at those things. Like when those are suffering or when they're really out of whack. It's undeniable that there is something that is detrimental to your well being that's going on right now. And your body is telling you like stop. Something needs to change. Mm

Welcome to Lenny's Podcast, where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts to learn from their hard-won experiences building and growing today's most successful products. Today my guest is Andy Johns. This is gonna be a very different type of episode and maybe the most meaningful and important episode of the podcast. Andy was a legendary product and growth leader at Facebook, Twitter, Cora, and Wealthfront, where he was VP of growth and VP of product and then president. and as you'll hear was in line to be CEO Wellfront, until he came to realize

That this path was not right for him. And after a lot of internal reflection and hard self work, he changed his entire life's path. To becoming a mental health advocate. And helping burnt out high achievers and also veterans with their mental health journey. In our conversation, Andy shares his personal story.

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