Face Value

Pushkin. Before we get to this episode, I want to recommend another podcast for you. Fiasco A Ron Contra is another Pushkin podcast by the co-creator of Slowburn, Leon Nayfock. You'll learn how Ronald Reagan found himself in the middle of a scandal that looked like it just might take down his presidency. Fiasco, a Ron Contra, is available wherever you get your podcasts.

Don't miss it. Malcolm Gladwell here, my new book, The American Way of Killing, investigates America's gun violence crisis. Why is the richest country in the world plagued by such lethal violence? Through a series of stories, interviews, and archival tape, I confront one of today's most urgent options. moral dilemmas and examine why the US has never quite understood its own problem and why you can't fix what you refuse to see clearly.

Get the American way of killing at pushkin.fm slash audiobooks or at Audible, Spotify, or wherever audiobooks are sold. Hello, hello, Malcolm Gladwell here. Today I'm in the studio with my producer, Lucy Sullivan. Lucy? Hi, Malcolm.

We already have this episode, so unlocking it is cheap and permanent: the full transcript (36 minutes, 6,399 words), segment and word-level timestamps, and .txt, .srt, .vtt and word-level JSON downloads, as many times as you like, forever.

No account needed, we create one from your checkout email. With credits it is 1 credit; packs start at 10 episodes for $5, and monthly plans are cheaper still.