Decoder with Nilay Patel · 2025-04-07 · 64 min · 10,349 words

UiPath CEO Daniel Dines on AI agents replacing our jobs

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And welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilap Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today, I'm talking with Daniel Dines, the co-founder and once again the CEO of UiPath, a software company that specializes in something called robotic process automation. We've been featuring a lot of what I like to call full circle guests on the show lately, and Daniel is a perfect example. He was first on a coder back in 2022, right before he moved to a co-CEO arrangement with Rob Inslin, a Google Cloud executive he brought on to help steer UiPath after it went public. In January of last year, Daniel actually stepped down as co-CEO to become chief innovation officer, and Rob became the sole CEO.

Then less than six months later, Rob resigned, and Daniel took his job as CEO back. Founder stepping aside for outside CEOs and then returning a CEO later on is a pretty familiar story in the tech world. And Daniel and I spent quite a while pulling his version of that story apart. He made some pretty key decisions, including important personal decisions, along the way to relinquishing control of the company he founded. and then some equally important decisions on the way to coming back.

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