The Peter Attia Drive · 2025-10-20 · 110 min · 21,544 words

#369 ‒ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

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Hey everyone, welcome to the Drive Podcast. I'm your host, Peter Atia. This podcast, my website, and my weekly newsletter all focus on the goal of translating the science of longevity into something accessible for everyone. Our goal is to provide the best content in health and wellness, and we've established a great team of analysts to make this happen. It is extremely important to me to provide all of this content without relying on paid ads.

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Her work focuses on the intersection of nutrition, aging, and disease prevention, and she is widely recognized for bringing clarity to complex topics in health science. This is part two of a deep dive on protein, but we expand into other topics like creatine supplementation and sauna use. In this episode, we discuss why the RDA for protein is too low and why a new minimum at at least 50% more than the RDA is needed to avoid negative protein balance. The distinction between minimum, optimal, and high protein intake, and how activity level and aging can affect requirements anabolic resistance, what it is, why inactivity drives it, and how resistance training restores sensitivity, the role of protein in preventing frailty and sarcopenia, and the quality of life implications in aging, evidence on protein intake during pregnancy, adolescence, weight loss,

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