Decoder with Nilay Patel · 2025-12-15 · 70 min · 14,575 words

Stack Overflow users don't trust AI. They're using it anyway

Listen to the original audio · Transcribed with NVIDIA Parakeet · Timestamps stay in sync with the live audio

It's late. Your team has a launch to plan while your customer inbox fills up. No worries. In one prompt, Clavio builds the whole campaign. The emails, the texts, WhatsApp.

All in your voice. Never without your okay. Plus, Clavio spots the revenue you're leaving on the table and answers those customer questions so your team can get some rest. Go to klaviyo.com/slash best friends. When it comes to AI, there is what we could do and what we should do.

What will we decide? I'm Kimberly Nevula, host of the Pondering AI podcast from SAS. Every episode, I sit down with innovators, researchers, and technologists to consider the questions that come after the AI breakthroughs. Questions that don't have easy answers but need to be asked. If you're curious or concerned about AI, join me as we challenge assumptions and ponder the issues together.

That is the first couple of minutes. The rest is $1.

We already have this episode, so unlocking it is cheap and permanent: the full transcript (70 minutes, 14,575 words), segment and word-level timestamps, and .txt, .srt, .vtt and word-level JSON downloads, as many times as you like, forever.

No account needed, we create one from your checkout email. With credits it is 1 credit; packs start at 10 episodes for $5, and monthly plans are cheaper still.

get it now

Ready in about two minutes.

Pay once, no subscription. Credits never expire.

Transcribing every week? Monthly plans start at $9, about 23 cents an episode.

Secure checkout by Stripe. No account needed: we create one from your email. By paying you agree to the terms.