Building minimum lovable products, stories from WeWork and Airbnb, and thriving as a PM | Jiaona Zhang (Webflow, WeWork, Airbnb, Dropbox)

I think it's really important to become really good at and also known for something. You could be known for shepherding like the most complex launches because you're just so good at quarterbacking, working with go to market teams and cross-functional stakeholders. That could be like your thing. You could be known for working on the most technically complex problems, find something that you can be really, really good at. And the reason I give that advice is because When you do that, you can crush like the projects that you get because you're you're making a name for yourself reputation. And then you're giving more responsibility. People tend to flock and give responsibility to the people that are known for being excellent at something.

Mm- Welcome to Lenny's Podcast, where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts to learn from their hard-won experiences building and growing today's most successful products. Today my guest is Jay Z. Jay Z is senior vice president of product at Webflow. She's also lecture at Stanford.

Teaching a course on product management. Before this, she was senior director of product management at We Work. A longtime product leader at Airbnb where I got to work with Jay-Z for a number of years, and she's also PM at Dropbox and at a gaming company called Pocket Gems. In our conversation, we dig into the most common mistakes early product managers make in their career, plus Jay-Z's biggest product mistake. We cover the concept of minimal lovable products versus minimal viable products. We talk about Jay Z's unique frameworks for road mapping, amperisation, and OKRs.

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