Dippin' Dots: Curt Jones

So really quick before we start the show, I want to let you know that there are still a few tickets left for our live show in Boston. It's happening at the Back Bay Event Center this Wednesday. I'll be talking with New England natives and founders of Luke's Lobster, Luke Holden, and Ben Coniff. Two guys who literally meant on Craigslist. So come join us Wednesday night in Boston for a live taping of how I built this. It's super fun, and I hope to see you there. And one more quick thing, you can also join us for our last How I Built This Live Show of the Year in Denver later this November. I'll be talking with Kurt Richardson, founder of Otter, the company that makes the Otterbox phone cases. You can get tickets for both our Boston and Denver live shows supported by American Express. at nprpresents. org. Oh.

if we were thirteen or fourteen million dollars in debt. And um they were trying to force us to pay that off. And of course again being a little bit stubborn, I'm I'm like, we'll just go to another bank. Well, that's when the banking crisis was starting to hit. So by the time we did all of our paperwork and everything and had one or two banks that were interested, All of a sudden, um

Everybody just tightens up, all the doors shut, no money. Yeah. Everything started going upside down. Yeah. From NPR, it's how I built this, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built.

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