20VC: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with No Funding: Surge AI | The Most Insane Scaling Story in Tech |

I think a lot of the other companies in our space, they're just not technology companies at the end of the day. They are either body shops or they are body shops masquerading as technology companies. One of the things that we simply tell everybody when we first join. Quality is the most important thing. I definitely want to sell for 30 billion or even 100 billion.

If you think about us as a company, I I already have everything I want. Yeah, we're profitable. I have complete control of our destiny. And so I'm really lucky to have all the resources I want to already do anything that I want. This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and today I feature probably one of the most impressive companies that I've ever featured on the show.

Founded in 2020, Surge now does well north of a billion dollars in revenue, and the crazy thing? They've never raised a dollar of outside funding. Their founder, Edwin Chen, barely ever does an interview. He never talks publicly.

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