Trump Is Building the Blue Scare
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In the hours and days after Charlie Kirk's murder, there was discussion on social media about whether this would be America's Reichstag fire, a reference to the fire that was part of, that was a rationale for, Hitler's crackdown on political freedom in Germany. Many of us were worried hearing that, and I think what we've seen since suggests the fears were right, but the analogy, the analogy was wrong. We should have been looking closer to home. This isn't a Reichstag fire. This is more like the Red Scare.
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