Zoohoplology (ANIMAL DEFENSES) with Ted Stankowich

Oh hey, it's your mom's friend who's always vaping into his sweatshirt, Allie Ward, and this episode is about putting your dukes up or curling into a ball so that you don't die. Either or sometimes both. Let's talk to an ologist I've known for years, an LA area animal icon who invited me to the lab down at California State Long Beach, where they're a professor, for a visit, a tour, and a chat about armadillos, skunks. pangolins, spikes, spurs, stripes, spots, and the will to keep living. So we'll chat in a sec, but first thank you to all the patrons who support the show for as little as a dollar a month at patreon.com slash ologies.

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