That Background Hum of Worry in Every Important Conversation — Here's What It Is and How to Quiet It | Claude M. Steele

Hey everybody, it's Dan Harris. Welcome to the 10% Happier Podcast. Today we're talking about social anxiety. Whether you consider yourself to be socially anxious or not, we all interact with people pretty much every day who are different from us. The difference could be gender, it could be age, it could be position on the power hierarchy at work, it could be race, it could be

political persuasion on and on. And so these differences, according to my guest today, create stress and even physical agitation. The term that my guest uses is churn. Said guest is Claude M. Steele, a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the author of a new book, Churn.

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