The Ezra Klein Show · 2026-06-19 · 80 min · 15,935 words

I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

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Hey, it's Anna Martin from the New York Times. What if I told you you'll never have to hear this line again? Wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, no, I actually can't tell you that, but you know what I can tell you? A place I think you might want to go.

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Before we begin today's show, we're going to be doing an Ask Me Anything episode quite soon. So if you have any questions, email us at Ezra Kleinshow at nytimes.com with the headline A-M-A. Over the past six months, I keep telling people we are living in super sad true love story. And sometimes they'll say to me, What was Super Sad True Love Story?

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