Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and why you should PM your career like you PM your product | Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry, ex-Facebook, PayPal, eBay)

You're a VP of product at Facebook, you're a director at eBay and PayPal. You're on the board of Intuit. You've been the CEO of Ancestry now for the past three and a half years. This is the career path that a lot of people dream of. You know, some of the best PMs I have ever worked with are terrible PMs for their careers. They just drift from job to job. Hey, should I take this role or this role? Like how do I think about this? And if I said you had to write a spec for your beer, what does success look like? How were you to get there? The workplace is really favored. People who can speak up. It looks like self-promotion. I wouldn't want to do that because of self-promotion. But instead, what if I called it educating about all the great work your team has been doing? Helping people see why your team should get more resources. You have to actually share what you do. Is there something that you believe that you think most other people don't believe? The most important career decision you make. is who you marry. Is this person lifting you up or pushing you back? You will have a much more successful career if your home life is in balance. It's like a yin and a yang. Today, my guest is Deb Lu. Deb was VP of product at Facebook, where she spent over eleven years.

And while there created and led Facebook Marketplace, which is now used by over one billion people monthly, she also led the development of Facebook's first mobile ad product for apps and its mobile ad network. Also built the company's games business and payments platform including Facebook Pay Prior to Facebook, she was director at both PayPal and eBay. She's on the board of Intuit. And for the past three and a half years she's been the CEO of Ancestry. I actually generally have a rule of no CEOs on this podcast, but to me Deb is a great exception because she is a product person at heart.

In our conversation, Deb shares a ton of tactical career advice, including why resilience is so key to career success. How to PM your career like you PM your product, how to be successful in business as an introvert. What she's learned about building multiple billion dollar zero to one businesses within a large company like Facebook, and so much more, Deb is so full of wisdom, and I'm really excited to share her insights with more people. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it on your favorite podcasting app or YouTube, it's the best way to avoid missing future episodes, and helps the podcast tremendously. With that, I bring you Deb Lou.

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