Infinite Loops · 2026-06-25 · 84 min · 18,895 words

Gretchen Rubin - How Curiosity Becomes a Calling (Ep. 320)

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A lot of times people know they want to leave. But they don't know where they want to go. And for me it was less about leaving law, and it was more like wanting to write. You know the scene in the original Star Wars where they're in the Millennium Falcon, they they they've got the tractor being on uh beam on them in here and and and Hanselo says, We have

to stop pulling back. Because we'll rip the ship apart. We have to allow ourselves to be drawn. to this destination. I just felt like I was in the tractor beam and I was just being drawn so forcibly toward it. I just thought I'd rather fail as a writer than succeed as a lawyer. I have a project in mind. I'm moving to New York City. This is my time to take a shot.

Welcome to this week's episode of Infinite Loops. I am Jimmy Sony, the editor in chief of Infinite Books, filling in for Jim O'Shaughnessy. This week's guest is Gresham Rubin. She is the author of multiple best selling books, probably best known for the number one New York Times bestseller, The Happiness Project. Please enjoy this conversation with Gretchen Rubin. Well, I have uh an amazing privilege today because I'm here with one of my not just one of my favorite writers, but one of my favorite people in the world, Gretchen Rubin. And to to set the scene for people

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