How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era

Hogging seats on a crowded train, not saying excuse me, watching videos on your phone with no headphones in. Sometimes it feels like we don't know how to act anymore. What we have been seeing, increasingly, is people breaking rules. Why should I play by the rules if nobody else is going to do that for me? This week on Explain It to Me, how to mind your manners.

New episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil Ipatel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Google and Alphabet CEO Sundar Pachai in a conversation we recorded just after the Google I.O. Developer Conference.

This is the fifth year Sundar and I have sat down after I.O., and it's become one of my favorite Dokoder traditions. There's always a lot of news at I.O., and this year was no exception. Google has powerful new Gemini models, it's putting AI agents in everything, and it's making huge changes to search on both the web and YouTube that will once again reshape the information ecosystem. That's a lot to talk about, and Sundar and I got into all of it.

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