10% Happier with Dan Harris · 2026-07-20 · 62 min · 10,871 words

Joyful Anyway: Surviving the Sh*t Show of Regular Life | Kate Bowler

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Hey gang, welcome to the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. Today we're talking about how when you live an overly regimented, optimized, metrics-driven life, it can be what my guest calls a joy blocker. That's one of the things we're going to talk about. We're also going to talk about the fact that we all have

whether aware of it or not, a kind of deep hunger or ache. And that deep hunger or ache can actually be a kind of compass and tell us what we want to live for, what we want to fill that hole with. My guest is Kate Bowler, PhD, who is a four-time New York Times bestselling author. Her latest book is called Joyful Anyway, and is that that's the book we're going to focus on in this interview. She's also a a podcaster.

She's got a podcast called Everything Happens. This interview is a ton of fun. There's a lot of laughing and joking and also a lot of profundity. I think you're going to enjoy it. Kate Bowler, after the break.

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