Fresh Air · 2025-11-17 · 51 min · 8,431 words

Cynthia Erivo's Road To 'Wicked'

Listen to the original audio · Transcribed with NVIDIA Parakeet · Timestamps stay in sync with the live audio

This election season, let the NPR Politics podcast save your time and your sanity, will help you understand key races, which polls you can safely ignore, and what might happen if power shifts in Congress. Our short daily episodes come out every afternoon so you can spend less time scrolling through each chaotic news cycle. Make NPR Politics your hub for midterm election coverage. Follow our podcast on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Fresh Air.

I'm Tanya Mosley. There's a moment in the new movie Wicked for Good when Elphaba, the so-called wicked witch, stops defending herself to a world that has misunderstood her and simply exists on her own power. My guest today, Cynthia Arrivo, brings that moment to life with a depth that is also personal. In part two of Wicked, Arrivo captures Alphabet's evolution from outcast to someone who claims her own story. a journey Arrivo also explores in her new memoir, Simply More.

The book traces how she learned to shed other people's definitions of her as a woman, as a black artist, and as someone who was sometimes told she was too much. Arrivo first broke through on Broadway in the color purple, winning a Tony Award for her portrayal of Seely. She went on to earn an Oscar nomination for her portrayal of Harriet Tutman, and later portrayed Aretha Franklin and Genius Aretha, for which she was nominated for several awards, including an Emmy. Arrivo is also a recording artist, blending gospel, soul, and cinematic pop. Last year's Wicked and the new film Wicked for Good are adapted from the Tony Award winning Broadway musical.

That is the first couple of minutes. The rest is $1.

We already have this episode, so unlocking it is cheap and permanent: the full transcript (51 minutes, 8,431 words), segment and word-level timestamps, and .txt, .srt, .vtt and word-level JSON downloads, as many times as you like, forever.

No account needed, we create one from your checkout email. With credits it is 1 credit; packs start at 10 episodes for $5, and monthly plans are cheaper still.

get it now

Ready in about two minutes.

Pay once, no subscription. Credits never expire.

Transcribing every week? Monthly plans start at $9, about 23 cents an episode.

Secure checkout by Stripe. No account needed: we create one from your email. By paying you agree to the terms.