The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk · 2025-08-03 · 82 min · 14,241 words

647: Tim Ferriss - Chasing Your Curiosity, Internal vs External Scoreboards, Effectiveness over Efficiency, Winning Even if You Fail, Fame's Hidden Costs, & The Mount Rushmore of Podcasting

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Welcome to the Learning Leader Show. I am your host. Brian Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Go to learningleader.com for show notes of this and all podcast episodes. Go to learningleader.com now. On to tonight's featured leader, the legendary Tim Ferris. is the author of five number one New York Times bestsellers, including the four hour work week, tools of Titans, and Tribe of Mentors. His podcast, The Tim Ferris Show, has been listened to more than a billion times, and he was an early investor. to Uber, Shopify, Twitter, Alibaba, and many others. He's the creator of a new card game called

Coyote. During our conversation we discussed the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic rewards he's gotten from his output in the positive dent. He's put in the world and then his role as a founding father in the world of podcasts and what he likes and doesn't about the future of podcasts. Then we discuss why you should shoot for quote ultra premium. Then we talked about why you shouldn't pray

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