How Leaders Lead with David Novak · 2025-05-29 · 49 min · 10,125 words

#241: Greg Johnson, Owner of the San Francisco Giants – Let people take ownership

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You know, ownership is so important to everything that any employee does, and that you're not going to keep people if one, they don't feel like they can control their destiny, and two, if they don't feel like they're going to have opportunities to grow. You ever wonder why sometimes the smartest people just aren't performing at the highest level that they can? Well, stick with me. You might just find out why. Welcome to How Leaders Lead.

I'm David Novak, and every week I have conversations with the very best leaders in the world to help you become the best leader that you can be. My guest today is Greg Johnson. He's the executive chairman of Franklin Templeton, which is a global investment firm that manages more than $1.5 trillion in assets. He's also the principal owner of the San Francisco Giants, who happened to be off to a great start this year. And in both roles, Greg leads with trust to make sure that the smartest people in his organization can perform at the highest level.

He believes people do their best work when they're given real ownership over their decisions and opportunities. So many leaders think that they've gotta keep their people on a short lease and retain control. But when you listen to Greg, you realize if you want to build empowered teams and keep your best people, you gotta let go and let them take ownership. So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, Greg Johnson.

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