356. Liberator of Latin America: Descent Into Tyranny (Part 3)

Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnand. And me, William De Rumpel. Now, Willie, last time you should remind people where we were, because Simon Bolivar's story, it's true to say, it's it's complicated. Now In the first episode, I think you were slightly concerned that we were, you know, sort of f fangirling maybe over over him.

I thought you were slightly. I thought I was maintaining a a a a very, very well kind of clear historical objectivity. Well, of course, because you're perfect in every possible way. But I think what it is is that, you know, you do have at the beginning a very charismatic and driven young man.

Good looking. He is that charismatic figure. He is the guy standing on the hill looking out and making this vow. He and he will be the man to effect enormous change. Now in the next two episodes It gets darker, doesn't it?

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