Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan

Hogging seats on a crowded train, not saying excuse me, watching videos on your phone with no headphones in. Sometimes it feels like we don't know how to act anymore. What we have been seeing, increasingly, is people breaking rules. Why should I play by the rules if nobody else is going to do that for me? This week on Explain It to Me, how to mind your manners.

New episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, it's Neilai. It's conference season, so I'm traveling across the country and around the world a lot more than usual. I'm out this week, but stay tuned for some very special decoder episodes we have coming up soon, starting on Monday. In the meantime, I wanted to share this conversation between my friend Peter Kafka and Condé Nas CEO Roger Lynch on Peter's podcast channels.

Lynch has been outspoken about traffic from Google search declining every single year. He said he's now told teams at Condi Nest to assume that Google traffic will be zero from now on. That's what I've been calling Google Zero for several years now, and you might recall that I just asked Google CEO Sundar Patrai about Lynch's comments during our recent interview. Sundar has always disagreed with me that Google Zero is real, but I thought you all might be interested to hear Peter and Roger talk about it directly. You'll also hear Roger talk about AI, the growing influence of the creator economy, and more in this.

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