Freakonomics Radio · 2025-07-09 · 58 min · 9,769 words

How to Make Your Own Luck (Update)

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Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner. Today we're bringing you one of my favorite episodes from the archive. This came out in 2020. I distinctly remember recording this interview in a COVID-era coat closet. The episode is called How to Make Your Own Luck, and it's a conversation with the writer Maria Kanakova about her decision to become a

professional poker player. We have updated facts and figures as necessary. As always, thanks for listening. This is Freekonomics Radio, the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything with your host, Stephen Dubner.

I love a book that immediately lets you see what the writer is seeing, lets you hear what they're hearing, even smell what they're smelling. The room is a sea of people. Bent heads. pensive faces, many obscured by sunglasses, hats, hoodies, massive headphones. It's difficult to discern where the bodies end and the green of the card tables begins.

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