The Man Who Proved Me Right with CEO Bob Chapman and the Barry-Wehmiller Team

I wish leaders took leadership as personally as you do. They see it as a rank or position. They see it as as power and authority, but they don't take it as seriously as raising a child. And you take taking care of your people as seriously as taking care of your children. You deeply mean it, you deeply feel it.

I know people who turn it on and turn it off, and you can't turn it off. It's it's core to who you are. I always say, Simon, you can retire from a job, but you cannot retire from a calling. And when I e look today as we talk, the issues we face in the world, I see business as a source. of destruction create an economic value but not human value.

And and I feel a profound sense of responsibility will change the way the world sees its its responsibility to people they have the privilege of leading. I imagine a world in which the vast majority of people wake up every single morning inspired, feel safe wherever they are, and end the day fulfilled by the work that they do. When most people hear me say this, they think it's just the ramblings of a crazy idealist. And I would actually agree with them until I met Bob Chapman. When I met Bob, he claimed that he'd actually built a company that embodied what I imagined.

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