Decoder with Nilay Patel · 2026-02-09 · 60 min · 11,218 words

Siemens CEO's mission to automate everything

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Hogging seats on a crowded train, not saying excuse me, watching videos on your phone with no headphones in. Sometimes it feels like we don't know how to act anymore. What we have been seeing, increasingly, is people breaking rules. Why should I play by the rules if nobody else is going to do that for me? This week on Explain It to Me, how to mind your manners.

New episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil Ipatel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Roland Bush, the CEO of Siemens. Now, Siemens is one of those absolutely giant, extremely important, and yet fairly opaque companies that we love to dig into here on Decoder.

At a very basic, very reductive level, Siemens makes the hardware and software It lets other companies run and automate their stuff. You've seen the Siemens logo everywhere, whether it's under the hood of your car, stamped on the control system of a fancy building, or scattered across factory floors. But since it's not really a consumer-facing company, it's hard to know what ties all those ideas together, and what some 320,000 Siemens employees across the world are actually working on. How all of those people are organized and

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