The Ezra Klein Show · 2026-06-02 · 94 min · 16,769 words

Ian Bremmer on the Risks America Poses to the World

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Over the past month, there are two dominant stories in American foreign policy. One, of course, is the war with Iran. The other is the much anticipated summit between President Trump and Xi Jinping of China. And I think if you look closely at both of these stories, you see that our foreign policy has entered into a period of absolute and complete incoherence.

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