#460 — When the Center Cannot Hold

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So, um, I think it's been about six months since you were on the podcast and a few things have happened. I think I I looked at it it was somewhere around August of last year. I may I have a list of things that that I think we could profitably discuss, but uh what what's most concerning you these days? Where's your head been on on uh on our political landscape? If we're talking politically, right, um, I mean there's all sorts of, you know, the AI thing is interesting in all sorts of ways.

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