295. Crusader Gaza: Saladin & Richard The Lionheart (Part 5)

Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnon. And me, William DeRimple. And we continue our series on Gaza. With this episode, we're going to be talking about the Christian conquests of the Crusades in the 11th and 12th centuries, and our very special guest is Jonathan Phillips. Professor of crusading history at Royal Holloway College, University of London.

He is the author of the magnificent The Life and Legend of the Sultan Saladin. Welcome to Empire. We're so happy to have you. Thank you. Thank you very much for asking me.

Now there's something with the Crusades, and I I can attest to this, where people think they know all about it because it is covered at school. I mean, I I can't tell you last year I made a shield. for a and then nine-year-old. And yeah, I don't know how that helped him imbibe the entire history of the region, but hot glue was involved. So I feel like I'm sort of part of this story now, Jonathan.

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