The rituals of great teams | Shishir Mehrotra of Coda, YouTube, Microsoft

I generally value the reference check over energy signals. You know, if I had the stack rank in interviews, what is the best signal? The uh reference check is the top of the list. Those people, you know, they work with this person for you know, sometimes for years. Like their knowledge what you're gonna get out of thirty minutes of artificial scenarios It's just like

Never gonna compare. What what a good reference check will give you. Shashir Marotra is the co-founder and CEO of Coda. Before starting Coda, Shashir led the YouTube product engineering and design teams at Google.

We spent over six years. Before that he spent six years at Microsoft. He's also on the board of Spotify. As you'll hear in this episode, Shashir is an incredibly deep and very first principles thinker on all kinds of topics. And in this episode we cover growth strategy, specifically a framework that he calls blue loops and black loops.

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