Fresh Air · 2026-09-08 · 46 min · 7,052 words

Casey Gerald says ruining his reputation saved his life

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This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. My guest today, writer Casey Gerald. Has walked away from his own success twice. First time was in twenty sixten at the height of everything. He was a kid from Oak Cliff, a working class neighborhood on the south side of Dallas.

Who had made it out. The way America tells us to make it out. A football scholarship to Yale a job at Lehman Brothers, an MBA from Harvard. He created a nonprofit that put him on magazine covers and Ted stages with a talk viewed millions of times. He opened for President Barack Obama at South by South West in twenty sixteen.

And there was even a New York magazine headline that asked Does Casey Gerald know how to fix America? And then just like that, he shut down his non profit, stopped answering the phone. and disappeared. His memoir There will be no miracles hier.

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