The New Yorker Radio Hour · 2025-04-15 · 24 min · 4,536 words

Ryan Coogler on “Sinners”

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This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Ryan Kugler began his career in film as a realist. His indie debut was called Fruitvale Station.

It's a tragedy about a police killing in the Bay Area train station, and it scrupulously followed the last day of the victim's life leading up to the shooting. Kugler moved from there to the drama of Creed about a young boxer, a film that was in the line of Rocky. And then he went on to make the super commercial widescreen fantasy, a Marvel hit called Black. Panther, of course. In his new movie, which is called Sinners, Ryan Kugler is still dealing with themes of race and history and faith, but this time he's packed it with vampires.

What y'all doing? Just step aside and let me hone in now. Why you need him to do that? You big and strong enough to push past us? Well, that wouldn't be too polite now, would it, Miss Andy?

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