Decoder with Nilay Patel · 2026-09-26 · 80 min · 17,471 words

Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?

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Go to eY.ai to explore more. Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Mila Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. This episode is part of a two-part series on the future of business. Today I'm talking with Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare.

Cloudflare is one of the most important infrastructure companies in the world. It protects all kinds of apps and services from bad actors on the internet, basically making it possible to operate a business online. Matthew last joined us on the show about two and a half years ago. What we thought then was a wild pivot point for the internet. But now, because of AI, it turns out things are even wilder, and Matthew and Cloudflare are right at the center of it.

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