All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · 2026-08-05 · 48 min · 9,293 words

Saronic Founders: Autonomous Warships, China's 230X Advantage & Swarms of Robot Ships

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Alright, everybody, welcome back to the all in interview series. I am thrilled, really thrilled, because Saronic is a defense company that has do been doing amazing work. And we are so lucky to have the co-founders here on the program. Welcome to the program, Dino Mavrucas. How are you, sir? Doing well. Thanks for having us. And uh your uh co founder here, uh Vib Altacar.

Let's talk a little bit about Saronic. Uh and we're gonna get into everything, but You were in the news. Юринюз пика. You're making autonomous Ships.

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