The Ezra Klein Show · 2026-03-06 · 72 min · 13,005 words

Why the Pentagon Wants to Destroy Anthropic

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So right now, everyone is thinking about Iran, but there is this story happening around it that I think we need to not lose sight of because it's about not just how we are fighting this war, but how we're going to be fighting all wars going forward. On Friday of last week, Secretary of Defense Pete Hagseth announced that he was breaking the government's contract with the AI company Anthropic. And not just that, he intended to designate them a supply chain risk. The supply chain risk designation is for technologies so dangerous they cannot exist anywhere. in the US military supply chain.

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