Running Hot

Pushkin. The headlines never stop, and it's harder than ever to tell what's real, what matters, and what's just noise. That's where PodSave America comes in. I'm Tommy Vitor, and every week I'm joined by fellow former Obama aides John Favreau, John Levitt, and Dan Pfeiffer to break down the biggest stories, unpack what they mean for the future of our democracy. and add just enough humor to stay sane along the way.

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Ben is the guy when you're hiking through the wilderness who says, Let's go this way, and there's no trail, and you think, oh, I'm gonna get eaten by bears, and then no, you find some lost civilization. and large piles of glittering gold. Ben started telling me this story, and I stopped him halfway through, and I said, Oh, Ben, this is a spandrel. And what's a spandrel? One of my all time favorite concepts, invented by Stephen J.

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