The Rich Roll Podcast · 2025-04-10 · 119 min · 22,018 words

Power, Property, & Prestige: Kurt Sutter & Katey Sagal Share The Unfiltered Truth About Marriage, Recovery, Success Addiction & The Path Back To Purpose

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Every project I've worked on, there's been at least one person who I've helped get sober. It has to be about love and service, right? I know my experience at first going to group recovery meetings was I'm not the only person that can't seem to manage a life without being medicated in some way. And there was huge relief in that. You know I love me a good addiction recovery story, but you know what's better than that?

two recovery stories that become one love story. When Kurt Sutter and Katie Segal first met, they shared something profound. Like me, they both got sober at the age of 31. And today, many decades later, they have plenty of hard-earned wisdom and direct life experience to share, but also, they're still growing, they're still evolving, and they're doing it together in a way that I think is really inspiring, not just for the sober or the sober curious, but For literally anyone in a long-term relationship who is committed to actually making it more intimate, more nourishing, and more rewarding than it has ever been.

You have to really want it. All the good and the bad of it. You know, the struggle of it. I have to find that fire. And if it's not,

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