Fresh Air · 2026-04-16 · 43 min · 7,165 words

Palestinian & Israeli activists share a vision of peace

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This is Fresh Air, I'm Tanya Mosley, and my guests today have each paid a profound price on opposite sides of a conflict that has lasted more than a century, with no signs of stopping. One is Israeli, the other is Palestinian. They call themselves brothers, and what brought them together is grief and a decision each of them made about what to do with it. Maouzinan's parents were murdered by Hamas on October 7, 2023, among the 1,200 Israelis killed that day in the deadliest attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust. In the war that followed, more than 75,000 Palestinians were killed.

The U.S. helped arm and funded, and the violence has now spread into Lebanon and Iran. But within days of his parents' murder, Mauz spoke. His family was not seeking revenge, instead they were seeking peace. Those words reached Palestinian peacemaker Aziz Abu Sarah.

Years before, when Aziz was only nine, his own brother had been arrested and tortured in an Israeli military prison for allegedly throwing stones at soldiers. He later died from his injuries, and Aziz says he recognized Mous's grief and decided to write him. What grew between them has become a brotherhood, a TED talk seen by millions, and eventually a journey. Ten months into the war, the two of them got in a van together and drove for eight days across Israel and Palestine, through checkpoints, holy cities, refugee camps, and separation walls. They wrote everything down in a book called

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