The Peter Attia Drive · 2025-09-29 · 107 min · 21,381 words

#366 ‒ Transforming education with AI and an individualized, mastery-based education model | Joe Liemandt

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Hey everyone, welcome to the Drive Podcast. I'm your host, Peter Atia. This podcast, my website, and my weekly newsletter all focus on the goal of translating the science of longevity into something accessible for everyone. Our goal is to provide the best content in health and wellness, and we've established a great team of analysts to make this happen. It is extremely important to me to provide all of this content without relying on paid ads.

To do this, our work is made entirely possible by our members, and in return, we offer exclusive member-only content and benefits above and beyond what is available for free. If you want to take your knowledge of this space to the next level, it's our goal to ensure members get back much more than the price of the subscription. If you want to learn more about the benefits of our premium membership, head over to peterateiamd.com forward slash subscribe. My guest this week is Joe Limar. Joe's a software entrepreneur turned education reformer.

As we discussed in the podcast, he dropped out of Stanford. In about 1989, started a company called Trilogy that's gone on to become one of the most profitable software companies in the world that you've probably never heard of because it's remained private this entire time. Joe basically left Trilogy three years ago to become the principal of Alpha School, and his passion today, and as he discusses for the next couple of decades of his life is going to be on transforming K-12 education. Now, of course, this is something that many people have thought about before, but I think what is really remarkable about the way Joe tells the story is that all previous efforts to transform K through 12 have been missing a critical piece of infrastructure.

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