Inside Devin: The world’s first autonomous AI engineer that's set to write 50% of its company’s code by end of year | Scott Wu (CEO and co-founder of Cognition)

Whole team is only like fifteen engineers, so you're we use a ton of Devon when we're building Devon. Most folks on the team are definitely working with up to five Devons at once. And so Devon merges like Several hundred pull requests into production in the Devin codebases every month. It's in the neighborhood of a quarter or so. Where do you think this will be at the end of the year? Honestly, yeah, we expect it to be a decent bit more than half. You guys are so ahead of how companies work with AI engineers. AI is going to be the biggest technology shift of our lives most of the big tech Revolutions that we've had over the last 50 years, like personal computer and the internet and mobile phone, they all had this big hardware component that was a big part of the distribution. Folks who were building for those industries kind of saw their market grow and grow and grow basically steadily year over year as the number of people with mobile phones increased, right? As the number of people connected to the internet increased. One of the things which was already I'd say different in AI is just how explosive the technology can be. There's no weight on hardware distribution. It means that the space is just growing so exponentially. How is the act of being an engine and building changing? I think there's gonna be way more programmers and way more engineers a few years from now. Pretty quickly, the form factor of what it means to be a programmer, obviously, is gonna change. But at the end of the day, of course, the discipline is all about

Just being able to tell your computer what to do. And so in that lens, I really think that programming is only gonna become more and more important as AI gets more powerful. Today, my guest is Scott Wu. Scott is the co-founder and CEO of Cognition, which makes a product called Devon, the world's first autonomous AI software engineer. Unlike other AI tools that I've highlighted on this podcast, Devin is designed to act like an actual remote engineer that you chat with. Like you would with any other human engineer through Slack. or through its dedicated website.

When Devin launched about a year ago, it was very much a junior engineer. Over the past year, they've made a lot of progress, and Devin is now being used by tons of companies in production. We chat about how their engineering team of fifteen uses Devons. to build Devon, including how every engineer uses about five Devons each to help them code and move faster. How a quarter of their pull requests today are committed by Devons. And that they expect us to be over fifty percent by the end of the year. We also talk about how Scott imagines software engineering is gonna look in the future, and how the role of an engineer changes from a coder to an architect.

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