The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk · 2026-01-26 · 72 min · 14,634 words

672: Brad Stulberg - The Neuroscience of Curiosity, Process vs. Outcome Goals, The Power of Consistency, Playing Like The Beatles, Focusing on Your WHO, and The Way of Excellence

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Welcome to the Learning Leader Show. I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Go to LearningLeader.com for show notes of this and all podcast episodes. Go to learningleader.com.

Now on to tonight's featured leader. My good friend Brad Stolberg is back, best-selling author of Peak Performance, the practice of groundedness, and its latest book is called The Way of Excellence. I love the intensity that Brad studies and writes about excellence. That's why we get along so well. During our conversation, we discuss goal setting, process or results-based?

Which is better and what does Brad? do for himself? What should you do for yourself? And then what we can learn from the scene in the Beatles documentary when they created the song Get Back, a really, really cool story that I think is applicable well outside the realm of creating music. And then why the phrase, quote, Brave New World is helpful.

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