How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold | Better in Person

This episode of Better in Person is presented by ChatGPT. Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Download the new ChatGPT desktop app. Today. Hey there, Steven Dubner. This is the third episode of a new video interview show we're making called Better in Person. Today's guest is the comedian Gary Goleman. You are going to love him, I guarantee. If you want the full video experience, go to the FreeConomics YouTube channel. It looks good on your phone, but it looks great.

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What you have to understand about show business is the hyperbole is at such a high level that if they love you. It means they don't want to work with you, but But they think you're pretty good. If they're obsessed with you. They'd they'd like to work with you, but if this fails, it's uh all over, we'll never hear from them again. And then I don't know what the next level will be. I want to I want to chop you up in a cuisine art and drink you like a smoothie. And that will mean that that they would like to make your project.

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