Lex Fridman Podcast · 2025-09-19 · 271 min · 46,746 words

#481 – Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

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The following is a conversation with Norman Ohler, author of Blitzed, Drugs in the Third Reich, a book that investigates what role psychoactive drugs, particularly stimulants, such as methamphetamine, played in the military history of World War II. It is a book that two legendary historians, Ian Kershaw and Anthony Beaver, give very high praise to. Ian Kershaw describes it as very well researched, serious piece of scholarship, and Anthony Beaver describes it as remarkable work of research. And it is indeed a remarkable work of research.

Norman went deep into the archives using primary sources to uncover a perspective on Hitler and the Third Reich that has before this been mostly ignored by historians. He also wrote Tripped, Nazi Germany, the CIA, and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age, and he is now working on a new book with the possible title of Stoned. Sapiens. Great title.

Looking at the history of human civilization through the lens of drugs. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description or at lexfriedman.com slash sponsors. It is in fact the best way to support this podcast. We got uplift desk for beautiful standing desks, Finn for AI agents, Shopify for selling stuff online, Element for electrolytes, and Hampton for connecting with CEOs.

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