The Ezra Klein Show · 2025-06-17 · 97 min · 14,646 words

Sarah McBride on Why the Left Lost on Trans Rights

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I'm John Caramonica, a critic at The New York Times. And I'm Joe Cascarelli, a culture reporter at The Times. Together we host Popcast, a weekly pop culture chat show where we speak to the biggest musicians, actors, internet celebrities, and more. We've had Bad Bunny, Olivia Rodrigo, and Anne Hathaway. We've also hosted live performances with Andre 3000 and Erica Badu.

Plus we end every conversation with a snack. Catch new episodes of Popcast every week on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcasts. So Donald Trump, in his inauguration speech, was perfectly clear about what he intended to do. As of today, it will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female. Starting the day of that speech,

Trump launched an all-out effort to roll back trans rights, using every power the federal government had and some that it may not have. President Trump has signed an executive order which declares the U.S. government will no longer recognize the concept of gender identity. President Trump directing the Secretary of Education to create a plan to cut funding for schools that teach what he calls gender ideology. This afternoon, President Trump makes a move to ban transgender athletes from competing in women's sports.

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