Fresh Air · 2026-04-25 · 49 min · 8,434 words

Best Of: Malala Yousafzai / Oscar Isaac

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This message comes from the podcast Before and After with Lester Holt. One moment can change a life forever. Hear Lester's conversations with Jeremy Renner, Gabby Giffords, and others about rebuilding after the unimaginable. Search Before and After to follow now. From WHYY in Philadelphia, I'm Terry Gross with Fresh Air Weekend.

Today, Malala Youssefzai. She was only eleven when she started to demand the right of girls to go to school after the Taliban invaded her town and banned girls' education. She was fifteen when she was shot by a Taliban gunman. Looking back now, does she think she understood the risk that she would become a Taliban target? I had pictured it many times that this could happen.

I had pictured it at school, I had pictured it in my school bus. I had pictured it on the street, I knew that the Taliban could do anything. Also, we hear from actor Oscar Isaac. He's currently starring in the Netflix series Beef and recently played Dr. Victor Frankenstein in Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein.

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