Making It Without Losing Yourself Feat. Jess Ekstrom

This is the Eden Maryland Show. Hey, welcome back to the show, you guys. I am so excited. I sought this lady out to have her on the show. And I was telling her off camera, I've been watching her stuff forever.

But I wasn't following you. So it was very strange because she comes up in my I watch so much of your stuff that you come up in my feed all the time. And the reason that I'm interested in the your content is I believe it's so good and so valuable. And so every once in a while, you guys, you know, I pick somebody who I had not met before and I because I want to meet them and I want to get to know them and I'm a fan of her work. She got a really unique story.

really unique story even a little madoff in the story so stay tuned for that it's it's this is going to be a great hour that you guys are going to enjoy we're going to talk about public speaking we're going to talk about climbing and business we're going to talk about the trade-offs of success and what you have to give up to do that I love the book by the way I read the book I didn't just do the cliff note thing I read the book it's making it without losing it She's also an expert on public speaking and we're gonna have a great journey today. Jess Extrom, welcome to the show. Ed, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

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