The Ezra Klein Show · 2026-05-12 · 94 min · 16,874 words

I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

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On Friday, I moderated a forum with the top five Democratic candidates for governor in California. We invited the Republicans too, but they didn't show up, on housing costs and housing affordability and what can actually be done about it. I think if you're in California particularly, but even if you're not, seeing how the Democrats running to lead the largest state in the nation with arguably the worst housing crisis in the nation. Seeing and hearing how they're thinking about actually trying to solve it is really, really instructive for where our politics might be going. Enjoy.

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