He saved OpenAI, invented the “Like” button, and built Google Maps: Bret Taylor on the future of careers, coding, agents, and more

You're CTO of Meta, you're co CO of Salesforce, you're chairman of the board at Open AI. How do you think the AI market is gonna play out? The whole market is gonna go towards agents. I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes based pricing. It's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software. So makes me think about I had Mark Benioff on the podcast. You guys were co COs. He was extremely It's so hard to sell productivity software, which I learned our way. And to not do that well with a link from the Google homepage is like kind of embarrassing. They sort of gave me another shot to do a V two of it that resulted in Google Maps. We got about ten million people using it on the first day. Today, my guest is Brett Taylor. Bret is an absolute legendary builder and founder. He co created Google Maps at Google. He co-founded the social network Friend Feed, which invented the like button and the real time newsfeed, which he sold to Facebook. He then became CTO at Facebook. He then started a productivity company called Quip, which he sold to Salesforce for seven hundred fifty million dollars.

He then became co CEO of Salesforce? He's also currently chairman of the board at OpenAI. At one point he was chairman of the board at Twitter. Today he's co-founder and CEO of Sierra, an AI startup building agents to help companies with customer service, sales, and more. In our conversation, we cover so much ground, including what skills and mindsets have most helped Brett be so successful in so many roles. While we're all still sleeping on the impact that agents are gonna have on the business world,

How coding is going to change in the coming years, where the biggest opportunities remain for startups, lessons on pricing and go to market in AI, the story behind the like button. And so much more, this is a truly epic conversation with a legendary builder. If you enjoy this podcast, don't forget to subscribe and follow it in your favorite podcasting app or YouTube. Also, if you become an annual subscriber of my newsletter, you get a year free of a bunch of incredible products, including Replit, Lovable, Bolt, N8N, Linear, Superhuman, Descript, Whisperflow, Gamma, Perplexity, Warp, Granola, Magic Patterns, Raycast, JetPRD, Mobbin, and more. Check it out at lenny's newsletter.com and click bundle. With that, I bring you Brett.

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